Tuesday, November 29, 2005
AMERICAblog: Why is the Pope so obsessed with gays?
Joe at AmericaBlog nails it:AMERICAblog: Why is the Pope so obsessed with gays?: "The Vatican and other religious fanatics spend more time thinking about gay sex than most gay people I know. It's really quite odd.
I heard on the Today show that the Vatican studied this issue for 10 years. What were they doing all that time? What makes these religious types such experts on homosexuality? Their obsession is a little too creepy. Me thinks they doth protesteth too much."
Comments:
Why are gays and liberals so obsessed with what the Christians think? Do you feel guilty?
The Pope is not obessed with gays. He is compelled to carry out the Word of God, which is the Bible. The fact that you have a problem with this, has been publicly displayed to the world.
Needless to say, the Pope is not a political figure. He is the bridge between man on Earth and Christ in Heaven. He is a Disciple, and humble servant of God. He is concerned with what God wants, not some whiney, liberal homosexual.
Do your homework, before making posts like this, please. You are wrong in your assumptions. The Pope does not hate gays, nor anyone. The hateful ones are the liberal, anti-Christians.
Liberals love freedom of speech, until someone uses it against them.
Perhaps their 10 year study was this: how on this earth, could someone actually do these horribly disgusting acts?
Liberals seem to have a fit when someone points out their sinful behavior.
Merry CHRISTmas
Brent Roos
http://brentroos.blogspot.com
The Pope is not obessed with gays. He is compelled to carry out the Word of God, which is the Bible. The fact that you have a problem with this, has been publicly displayed to the world.
Needless to say, the Pope is not a political figure. He is the bridge between man on Earth and Christ in Heaven. He is a Disciple, and humble servant of God. He is concerned with what God wants, not some whiney, liberal homosexual.
Do your homework, before making posts like this, please. You are wrong in your assumptions. The Pope does not hate gays, nor anyone. The hateful ones are the liberal, anti-Christians.
Liberals love freedom of speech, until someone uses it against them.
Perhaps their 10 year study was this: how on this earth, could someone actually do these horribly disgusting acts?
Liberals seem to have a fit when someone points out their sinful behavior.
Merry CHRISTmas
Brent Roos
http://brentroos.blogspot.com
Interesting comments, Brent. You go WAY past the "hate the sin, love the sinner" argument to hate, hate, hate.
I won't try to convince you to change your position. I think I'd have about as much luck with that as I would convincing a person with a Harley tattoo to buy a Honda.
Here are a few things to consider:
1. Why do you assume someone can't be liberal and Christian? Would you consider President Jimmy Carter a Christian? I sure would. How about that guy they call The Prince of Peace? Sounds like a liberal to me.
2. And are you assuming gay people can't be Christian? What about all those gay priests?
3. Like it or not, the interpretation of the bible has evolved over time. Remember when the Earth was at the center of the universe? Times change. We grow up. Become more mature. Learn to love on another rather than find reasons to discriminate against each other due to harmless differences.
4. Suggesting that the Pope is not a political figure is laughable.
5. What about conservative homosexuals? Are they whiny too?
6. Discriminating against people based on their sexual orientation is a form of hate. Using religion to justify your discriminating it too.
7. Can you show me an example of liberals quashing freedom of speech? That seems out of character.
8. Disgusting acts? I'm sure you're doing your own share of disgusting acts that are forbidden by the bible. But that's your business, just like it's not your business what other people do in the privacy of their own homes.
9. Fits? No. It makes me sad to know there are such people as hateful as yourself in this world. It saddens me to see someone so confused that they'll spend time hating people that don't hurt them.
10. Merry CHRISTmas? What a sad response. Using Jesus' name to close such a hateful comment is WAY out of line with Jesus' message.
I hope you can learn to love rather than hate your fellow man.
Peace on Earth.
I won't try to convince you to change your position. I think I'd have about as much luck with that as I would convincing a person with a Harley tattoo to buy a Honda.
Here are a few things to consider:
1. Why do you assume someone can't be liberal and Christian? Would you consider President Jimmy Carter a Christian? I sure would. How about that guy they call The Prince of Peace? Sounds like a liberal to me.
2. And are you assuming gay people can't be Christian? What about all those gay priests?
3. Like it or not, the interpretation of the bible has evolved over time. Remember when the Earth was at the center of the universe? Times change. We grow up. Become more mature. Learn to love on another rather than find reasons to discriminate against each other due to harmless differences.
4. Suggesting that the Pope is not a political figure is laughable.
5. What about conservative homosexuals? Are they whiny too?
6. Discriminating against people based on their sexual orientation is a form of hate. Using religion to justify your discriminating it too.
7. Can you show me an example of liberals quashing freedom of speech? That seems out of character.
8. Disgusting acts? I'm sure you're doing your own share of disgusting acts that are forbidden by the bible. But that's your business, just like it's not your business what other people do in the privacy of their own homes.
9. Fits? No. It makes me sad to know there are such people as hateful as yourself in this world. It saddens me to see someone so confused that they'll spend time hating people that don't hurt them.
10. Merry CHRISTmas? What a sad response. Using Jesus' name to close such a hateful comment is WAY out of line with Jesus' message.
I hope you can learn to love rather than hate your fellow man.
Peace on Earth.
Ed, I pray for you. Why do you assume hatred from me? You would be wrong. I don't hate homosexuals, but I do believe that their lifestyle is sinful. There is a huge difference there, buddy! I never said I hate gays, I just don't apporove of sodomy, and neither does God:
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
Corinthians 7:2
"But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband."
Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination".
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them".
Deuteronomy 23:17
"There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel".
Furthermore, I do not approve of any sexual sin and/or perversions, including fornication, adultery, homosexuality, and beastiality.
What disgusting acts do I engage in? Wow, do you know me personally? Well, if you consider going to Church, disgusting, then I'm guilty as charged. If you call working hard disgusting and sinful, I'm guilty. If you call loving God, family, and country sinful and disgusting, then I am guilty.
The reason I oppose any form of homosexuality, is because it defies God's plan of sexuality. Human sexuality is beautiful and special. It is the devil which pollutes this with wicked sexual sin. Sex is to be between a man and a woman in the holy sancitity of marriage.
Please tell me where in my previous post that I mentioned that a liberal cannot be a Christian. I never made any such claim. Yes, Carter is a decent and humble man, also a Christian. He is also a socialist, but that's another story.
However, those who support abortion, cannot be true Christians. They support the slaughter of an unborn life. Abortion is just the nice and less ugly way to say what it really is. There are liberals who oppose abortion and conservative who support it. Reality is, that most liberals do support abortion. Just what is the first question that liberals ask, when questioning a judge or justice nominee? Abortion!
Just because someone is a preist doesn't mean they are not a fake Christian.
The Prince of Peace is a liberal? Gee, I didn't realize the the Lord and Savior was a politician. Nice try there. Evidence? That's what I thought.
Gay people can't be true Christians, because to be so, one must not question the Bible, but live by the Word. True Christians do not pick and choose the parts of the Bible which fit into their lifestyle. Real Christians follow Christ through the Word of God.
The Pope is not a politician. He is the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. While he may have political influence, he is not the leader of any state. For example, Pope John Paul II provided spiritual guidance, to help Ronald Reagan end the Cold War. I am certain that his prayers helped, and were heard by God.
What about conservative homosexuals? Are they whiny too?
Yes, all three of them are!
Discriminating against people based on their sexual orientation is a form of hate
So I suppose that God is homophobic?
Can you show me an example of liberals quashing freedom of speech?
Speaches by:
Ann Coulter
David Horowitz
Michelle Malkin
Arnold Schwarzenegger
with heckling, pie throwing, and more. This is obviously just a few of many, many examples, and mainly at college campi.
What is worst is that these 'protesters' proclaim freedom of speech, meanwhile blocking a speakers freedom of it. It's freedom of speech, not 'from speech'. So, if those 'students' dont like what they are hearing, they have a right to speak out about it, but not during the speech itself. That is beyond highly innapropriate. It is a blatant violation of freedom of speech. Pie throwing at Ann Coulter, playing a South Park theme, during the speech, etc. is beyond a violation of freeedom of speech. It is a misdemeanor called 'disturbing the peace'.
Brent Roos:
how on this earth, could someone actually do these horribly disgusting acts?
Ed's response:
Interesting comments, Brent. You go WAY past the "hate the sin, love the sinner" argument to hate, hate, hate.
So I voice my opinion, and now I am suddenly hateful? You are attempting to block my opinion with a 'hate speech' label. It's pure hogwash!
You have the right to say whatever you want. I just want you to know that it is patently unture. I am not hateful, not even of sinners. I pray for the sinful. And I also think that sodomy is disgusting! Your anus is not designed for sex! It is designed to expell digested waste.
Many people who engage in sodomy have had health issues.
That seems out of character.
Which character is that? The flipflop one, the antiwar one? The legalize drugs one? Where do you people actually stand? It's a bit confusing, even for an educated man like myself.
I never said I hate anyone, in seriousness. I do hate the behaviors of many things, which I find to be shocking. God said:
Psalm 97:10
"Let those who love the LORD hate evil, for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked."
Proverbs 8:13
"To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech."
Romans 12:9
"Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good."
Like it or not, the interpretation of the bible has evolved over time.
Not to true Christians who follow the Word. We do not question it, nor do we try to apply it or interpret it in a way which makes it fit to our modern lifestyle. The Bible is what it is. If you are a true Christian, you do not question The Word, as it is inspired by The Holy Spirit, which is the third part of the Holy Trinity of God (The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit).
I am following the movement to put the Christ back in CHRISTmas. I'm sorry that you have a problem with that. I leave that as a reminder about what CHRISTmas really is; the Birth of Christ.
Don't forget that the reason we give gifts to one another, is because of God's gift of Jesus to mankind.
Your equation of hatred, does not at all fall into a description of my identiy. I just want to clear this up for you. Although I do not approve of the sin, I pray for the sinners, so that one day they too might be saved by the Mercy of the Lord. All can be forgiven by accepting Christ, but to do so, means first accepting your own imperfection and sin, then repenting the sin.
It would be simple for a homosexual to enter the Kingdom of God, as long as he/she repents for the sin. Repentance means remorse or contrition for past conduct or sin. This repentance follows an admission of guilt, followed by acceptance of wrongdoing. Lastly, it involves refraining from committing the sinful act again.
Your false accusations are based on non-truths (lies), and therefore not to be taken seriously by anyone. I would appreciate if you would not do this. Please don't contradict your own seeminly self-professed perfection, your majesty! I pray that you too may someday see The Light of the Lord.
Once again,
Merry CHRISTmas
Brent Roos
http://brentroos.blogspot.com
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1 Corinthians 6:9-11
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
Corinthians 7:2
"But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband."
Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination".
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them".
Deuteronomy 23:17
"There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel".
Furthermore, I do not approve of any sexual sin and/or perversions, including fornication, adultery, homosexuality, and beastiality.
What disgusting acts do I engage in? Wow, do you know me personally? Well, if you consider going to Church, disgusting, then I'm guilty as charged. If you call working hard disgusting and sinful, I'm guilty. If you call loving God, family, and country sinful and disgusting, then I am guilty.
The reason I oppose any form of homosexuality, is because it defies God's plan of sexuality. Human sexuality is beautiful and special. It is the devil which pollutes this with wicked sexual sin. Sex is to be between a man and a woman in the holy sancitity of marriage.
Please tell me where in my previous post that I mentioned that a liberal cannot be a Christian. I never made any such claim. Yes, Carter is a decent and humble man, also a Christian. He is also a socialist, but that's another story.
However, those who support abortion, cannot be true Christians. They support the slaughter of an unborn life. Abortion is just the nice and less ugly way to say what it really is. There are liberals who oppose abortion and conservative who support it. Reality is, that most liberals do support abortion. Just what is the first question that liberals ask, when questioning a judge or justice nominee? Abortion!
Just because someone is a preist doesn't mean they are not a fake Christian.
The Prince of Peace is a liberal? Gee, I didn't realize the the Lord and Savior was a politician. Nice try there. Evidence? That's what I thought.
Gay people can't be true Christians, because to be so, one must not question the Bible, but live by the Word. True Christians do not pick and choose the parts of the Bible which fit into their lifestyle. Real Christians follow Christ through the Word of God.
The Pope is not a politician. He is the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. While he may have political influence, he is not the leader of any state. For example, Pope John Paul II provided spiritual guidance, to help Ronald Reagan end the Cold War. I am certain that his prayers helped, and were heard by God.
What about conservative homosexuals? Are they whiny too?
Yes, all three of them are!
Discriminating against people based on their sexual orientation is a form of hate
So I suppose that God is homophobic?
Can you show me an example of liberals quashing freedom of speech?
Speaches by:
Ann Coulter
David Horowitz
Michelle Malkin
Arnold Schwarzenegger
with heckling, pie throwing, and more. This is obviously just a few of many, many examples, and mainly at college campi.
What is worst is that these 'protesters' proclaim freedom of speech, meanwhile blocking a speakers freedom of it. It's freedom of speech, not 'from speech'. So, if those 'students' dont like what they are hearing, they have a right to speak out about it, but not during the speech itself. That is beyond highly innapropriate. It is a blatant violation of freedom of speech. Pie throwing at Ann Coulter, playing a South Park theme, during the speech, etc. is beyond a violation of freeedom of speech. It is a misdemeanor called 'disturbing the peace'.
Brent Roos:
how on this earth, could someone actually do these horribly disgusting acts?
Ed's response:
Interesting comments, Brent. You go WAY past the "hate the sin, love the sinner" argument to hate, hate, hate.
So I voice my opinion, and now I am suddenly hateful? You are attempting to block my opinion with a 'hate speech' label. It's pure hogwash!
You have the right to say whatever you want. I just want you to know that it is patently unture. I am not hateful, not even of sinners. I pray for the sinful. And I also think that sodomy is disgusting! Your anus is not designed for sex! It is designed to expell digested waste.
Many people who engage in sodomy have had health issues.
That seems out of character.
Which character is that? The flipflop one, the antiwar one? The legalize drugs one? Where do you people actually stand? It's a bit confusing, even for an educated man like myself.
I never said I hate anyone, in seriousness. I do hate the behaviors of many things, which I find to be shocking. God said:
Psalm 97:10
"Let those who love the LORD hate evil, for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked."
Proverbs 8:13
"To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech."
Romans 12:9
"Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good."
Like it or not, the interpretation of the bible has evolved over time.
Not to true Christians who follow the Word. We do not question it, nor do we try to apply it or interpret it in a way which makes it fit to our modern lifestyle. The Bible is what it is. If you are a true Christian, you do not question The Word, as it is inspired by The Holy Spirit, which is the third part of the Holy Trinity of God (The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit).
I am following the movement to put the Christ back in CHRISTmas. I'm sorry that you have a problem with that. I leave that as a reminder about what CHRISTmas really is; the Birth of Christ.
Don't forget that the reason we give gifts to one another, is because of God's gift of Jesus to mankind.
Your equation of hatred, does not at all fall into a description of my identiy. I just want to clear this up for you. Although I do not approve of the sin, I pray for the sinners, so that one day they too might be saved by the Mercy of the Lord. All can be forgiven by accepting Christ, but to do so, means first accepting your own imperfection and sin, then repenting the sin.
It would be simple for a homosexual to enter the Kingdom of God, as long as he/she repents for the sin. Repentance means remorse or contrition for past conduct or sin. This repentance follows an admission of guilt, followed by acceptance of wrongdoing. Lastly, it involves refraining from committing the sinful act again.
Your false accusations are based on non-truths (lies), and therefore not to be taken seriously by anyone. I would appreciate if you would not do this. Please don't contradict your own seeminly self-professed perfection, your majesty! I pray that you too may someday see The Light of the Lord.
Once again,
Merry CHRISTmas
Brent Roos
http://brentroos.blogspot.com
